David Gregory: A Worthy Adversary
Wednesday, August 1st, 2007By William Ferrall
Photograph by Alex Wong/Getty Images
It’s of little surprise that newsman and seasonal Nantucket resident David Gregory recently played back-up hoofer to a rap song and dance by senior White House advisor Karl Rove. At this spring’s annual Radio and Television Correspondents’ Dinner, Gregory and a handful of others were pictured gyrating almost comfortably.
After all, as chief White House correspondent for NBC News, Gregory often navigates swirling complexities in national politics with politicians who dance around the issues. Still, despite his frequent on-air gigs—Gregory regularly fills in as guest host of NBC’s “Today Show,” and “Meet the Press with Tim Russert,” or as a panelist on other news programs in addition to his prominence in televised White House press conferences—the son of a Broadway producer and an actress said the performing arts never appealed much to him.
“I loved the theater and still do,” he recalled. “I used to hang out with my dad and go to meetings and business
lunches with directors and actors. I was always interested in the business, but it never really caught my imagination the way it did for him. “Since I was 15, this was what I wanted to do. I started watching the evening news and became enchanted with where the news would take me around the country, around the world, into politics. It immediately grabbed me.”
With a national presidential campaign about to rev up, Gregory intends to spend even more time in front of a camera by crisscrossing the country with the campaigns of leading contenders.
“This is a highly engaged and angry electorate going into the 2008 election,“ he told a sold out crowd at Nantucket’s Unitarian Church during a public talk in early July. “There’s much at stake [that will be] a huge challenge for the next president.”
Just what’s at stake might be obvious. In the recent opening of his Sunday news program, Gregory’s boss and NBC News’ Washington Bureau Chief Tim Russert noted, “Iraq is front and center throughout the world.” Gregory agrees. Asked if any developments in comings months might deter public attention from the war or from the election that he plans to cover, Gregory said, “I don’t think there’s much else.”
It might have been the leading topic at most White House press conferences for Gregory and his colleagues in recent years, but maybe not until recently for the U.S. public. “I think the country was largely disengaged,” Gregory insisted when asked if the press did its job in the run-up to the war in Iraq. “It became engaged when things started to go badly, when everyone discovered that there were no ‘weapons of mass destruction,’ [when] we were not seen as liberators and [when] guerilla warfare sprung up throughout Iraq.
“A lot of people feel we didn’t do our job in the run up to the war,” Gregory acknowledged. But, he concluded, “the right questions were asked.” That record “is my legacy.”
A worthy adversary
A big part of Gregory’s legacy has been his reputation as a tough inquisitor because his interactions with President Bush and White House Press Secretaries sometimes appear more contentious than those of his fellow press corps members. When Gregory pressed Bush earlier this year on whether the president is still a credible source on terrorism, Bush chided Gregory that terrorists “are a threat to your children.”
Last fall, after Press Secretary Tony Snow characterized a Gregory question as slanted by “partisanship,” commentators at Fox News and other conservative news outlets accused Gregory and NBC of tilting to the left.
For his part, Gregory reminded that his job is “not to be an enemy but to be an adversary,” as part of the White House press corps. And criticism has been leveled at Gregory by liberals as well as by conservatives. The liberal blog Huffington Post, for example, recently suggested that President Bush had advance knowledge of a seemingly tough question by Gregory. The blog characterized Bush’s answer as seemingly “rehearsed.” As for viewers and listeners—who often easily recognize Gregory with his 6’5” stature—their inquiries run across the political spectrum but tend to be encouraging of his tough-guy persona.
“It really does depend where I am, whether it’s in Washington or along the Eastern seaboard,” explained Gregory. “People who approach me tend to be fairly anti-war or anti-Bush, so I get some ‘right ons’ and ‘keep asking the tough questions.’ Occasionally, I get people who are more critical, who say ‘you’re rude and disrespectful of the President.”
Gregory lamented that in general “we’re less civil to one another in our public discourse,” a development he blamed in part on the proliferation of Internet blogs and the public’s deep split from the current administration over the war in Iraq. “The floor has dropped out” on the public’s approval of this presidency, Gregory noted. “Many Republicans are demoralized and depressed. More of them now associate Bush with ‘basic incompetence.’
“The left is so angry with George Bush about this war in Iraq that there’s a real desire to simply get him out of power and to disengage from the Middle East.”
The worldwide public has expressed its anger toward Bush as well, with most polls showing U.S. approval at its lowest in many years. From his seat in the White House pressroom, and recently while accompanying the president on an extended trip to Eastern Europe and former Russian states, Gregory recognized that international relations have worsened under this administration and its actions in Iraq.
“America’s standing in the world has suffered a blow as the result of this war,” said Gregory. “There’s no consensus on how to fight the war on terror, between the United States and most of its traditional allies. There’s certainly a consensus about the need to confront terrorism but the parting of the ways was the Iraq War. That breech is pretty big, to the point where Bush and other leaders don’t really discuss Iraq.
“So, that’s a tremendous challenge, not only the question of how the U. S. disengages from Iraq, but what comes next? That becomes a huge challenge for the next president. George Bush wrote chapter one in the ‘war on terror’—and that was a pretty dangerous chapter.
Chapter two gets even more difficult as you think about how do we not only disengage from Iraq but [how we] continue to confront terrorism.”
Bush’s mind
Gregory demurred when asked to evaluate this White House when compared to previous administrations, and he declined to analyze the thinking of President Bush.
“That’s not really my place,” he reminded. “It’s not my role to offer those kind of judgments. There are columnist and polemicists who do that. That’s going too far a field from what I do.” He conceded, though, that the public remains highly curious about Bush’s mind.
“I’m certainly someone who has watched Bush very closely and who knows the President and knows this presidency very well. I get a lot of questions about ‘what is he like, and ‘what are they thinking right now’ and, ‘frankly, what were they thinking all along’?” A lot people are trying to decode the Bush White House.”
With the war in Iraq on the minds of most U.S. voters, Gregory speculated how the upcoming race for the White House will shape up. “The [Republican Senator John] McCain camp is in a lot of trouble, and they made a lot of mistakes,” Gregory agreed after recent news that the Arizona Senator’s campaign was in trouble. “But the Republican field is so fluid right now and is in such disorder that you can’t count him out just yet. The irony, of course, is that, in effect, George Bush has undermined McCain twice. He did it the first time when he defeated him in 2000 [in the South Carolina primary]. Because McCain is so close to Bush on the war now, Bush is coming close to defeating him again.”
On both sides of the ticket, Gregory sees the fields soon narrowing. “It will become a battle of the top two on both sides,” he said. “Right now you still have to look at Hillary [Clinton] and [Barrack] Obama on the left as ‘sucking most of the oxygen out of the room.’ Edwards has a strong operation in Iowa, but has a long way to go to really be competitive. Iowa will be telling, but you still have to look at Clinton and Obama for the Democrats.”
Gregory said earlier this month that he thought Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico would make a good running mate for Senator Clinton if she were her party’s nominee. Whatever the final mix, when compared to previous serious contenders for the White House, the current leaders include a nearly full deck of wild card candidates.
“There are questions [to which] we just don’t know the answers,” speculatedGregory. “’Is the country ready for a black president, or a female president or a Mormon president?’ Will conservatives nominate a candidate who has been married three times? All of these things stand conventional wisdom on its head.”
But conventional wisdom in this country might not apply in a time of war and its accompanying great uncertainties. “I really think that this [war] is a big issue,” said Gregory.
“War can be a great uniter but in this case it has really divided the country. There’s no question that Bush, who promised to be the ‘great uniter,’ has been anything but [that]. He had 80% approval ratings after 9/11 and it’s been all downhill since.
“George Bush, made it very clear early on, “continued Gregory, “that rather than rallying people around the war, he wanted the American people to go about their lives. He wanted to hunker down in Washington with his administration and worry about the threat to the country. He never really challenged the country to interrupt their lives, to change their lives as the war on terror went on.
“The country has had no emotional investment in the Iraq War. Coming [up] on the 5th summer of being at war, it’s not something that people feel emotionally connected to.”
On the lighter side
For Gregory’s part, his emotional connection to the profession of journalism has been certain for much of his 37 years. “This has always been a great vehicle for me to experience the world and it has never let me down,” he averred.
But it’s not always so serious as his observations here might suggest. Besides his back up dancing gig with his adversary Karl Rove, Gregory has been characterized as something of a “showman” in several profiles about him. President Bush has singled him out probably more than any other member of the White House press corps as the target of jokes, with Bush referring to him as “Stretch” or “Lil’ Stretch” for his height.
Gregory also makes regular appearances at Washington social events with his wife Beth Wilkinson, a former Justice Department attorney now in private practice and whom he met while covering the Oklahoma City trail of bomber Timothy McVeigh. Seven years ago, the two were married on Nantucket, where she was already a regular visitor. Today, they are seasonal homeowners on the island with three young children.
In another example of Gregory’s lighter side, he joked at his Nantucket lecture this summer that because he’s Jewish he was there to talk about the role of his people in the history of whaling.
Underscoring the ironic tone that seems always present in Gregory’s casual conversation, a Houston Chronicle reporter reported on her blog that when she encountered Gregory during a visit to the White House press room he showed off his new Apple iPod, playing for those nearby the Annie Lenox rock ballad “No More I Love Yous.” There was no word of a response from White House officials.






